Originally Posted by Bucco

YEP....because he had to do what he did...paying off folks simply because straight up he didnt have the votes for this total trainwreck of a bill EVEN AMONG HIS OWN PARTY. This bill, and you can write it down, is going to be an albatross around all our necks for some time. Yep, also because it was the TOTAL OPPOSITE of what he said over and over again that he would do, AND he did despite most americans being opposed. We see a bit of the irony as people are backing away in droves even those who originally supported him on it.

And please cease and desist on the Bush rhetoric. I am not, nor ever been a Bush supporter and you actually weaken and cheapen everything you say when you say that stuff. You sound like lad on the playground with the constant harping on Bush. He has been gone for over THREE YEARS and if you mean to say that Obama can lie about issues because Bush did, then we have a far more serious problem AND THAT IS WHAT YOU IMPLY....by always saying Bush did it...or something to that affect.

I have been criticizing this man...Obama....since well before he was even the candidate so it is not sour grapes. Search just this forum and you will find that to be the truth so this is not some party hack. He never had what it takes to fill this job and he is gettting worse. I am not a "johnny come lately" and jumping on the pile on Obama..I called him not capable before he was even a serious threat for the candidacy.

This is not a referendum on Bush...it is on Obama.....he has been in the Oval office for over 3 years now. He has not surpised me on bit on how he has acted. He never had any leadership positions, had no leadership skills and has never done much in his life but TALK. He is a very smart man and very articulate but he had none of his own ideas and floats around trying to satisfy folks.

He had many chances to show leadership and we have mentioned the health bill...that was one. He chose TO IGNORE the majority of americans who opposed it...he chose TO IGNORE the majority of politicians, even in his own party, who opposed it. He chose TO IGNORE the chance to have a viable public debate on the subject.

Again, understand, I am not posting here to set up 2012...I have been posting anti Obama on here, as I said WELL BEFORE he was even the candidate...when it looked like Clinton would be the nominee.

I invite you to read about this President...read his autobiographies (TWO of them and they even differ)...read about his time in Chicago.what he said..what he did (most times different)...WHO he was associated with at the time which is what made up the man.

His non decisive positions on things will not surprise anyone who has read his background