Looks like for the most part this has turned into a "bash Obama" thread, with many of the same old bashers.

Are we completely forgetting how we got into this mess? More importantly, are we considering at all how we're going to get out of it? Or do we even have a chance to get out of it?

I'd say that without major changes to the membership of the U.S. Congress and more importantly whether the various political factions adopt a willingness to work together, to compromise and agree on some plans that will work, this country doesn't have much of a future. The President is a spokesman for and to the people, but he can't change a thing with regard to our spending or our fiscal policy.

The President can suggest, cajole, even threaten, but it's going to make little difference who is sleeping in the White House beginning on January 20, 2013 unless major changes are made in the Congress and the way they choose to do business. If it's the same old list of people, Reid, McConnell, Pelosi, Boehner, Cantor holding forth under the capitol dome, the future is dim indeed. Nothing will change.

Anyone who thinks that things will improve if Romney or Bachmann or Perry or Palin are elected but if little else changes at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue is delusional.