Originally Posted by djplong

Straw man argument. Many false preconceptions where the metaphor falls apart.

Nobody has an abortion without knowing they're pregnant (barring something really out of the ordinary like an accident victim in a coma who can't sustain a pregnancy or something like that)

In your metaphor, if you ask me to demolish the building, I'll be checking for myself to see if anyone's in there.

Your argument boils down to "when does life begin", but it's more complex than that. What it REALLY boils down to is "When does constitutionally-protected life begin?"

If you're passing civil laws to control that, then it's all about the Constitution and the law books. If you're talking religion, then that's between you and whichever deity you believe in. And, no, I'm not ignoring the influence that religion has had on civil law. That's the very basis of many of the arguments that go back and forth on this subject.

I don't mean to be sarcastic with this, so I apologize if it sounds that way. But the religious argument is based on a myth that nobody can prove - or, for that matter, disprove in many cases.

Our laws don't stop any religious organization from offering their services to promote adoption - and that's a Good Thing. But sometimes the numbers are overwhelming. The last time I checked, there were over 5,000 kids in the greater Boston area who needed parents. In New York, it was far worse with almost 50,000 (I grant you, this was several years ago). But those were mostly minority kids. The wait time for 'perfect white babies' stretches for years in some places. Heck, some countries had to put curbs on people coming from the US to adopt their orphans to slow it down.

Respectfully, I can't play your game. Your game is rigged for a particular outcome. And I don't mean that in a sarcastic tone - you're trying to use a metaphor to illustrate your side of the debate. I can respect that, and I hope you take this response in the manner I intended.