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Originally Posted by KatzPajamas
I cannot call pro-abortion people by the term pro-choice until the choices of all involved are respected.
With your example of freezing the embryo...many premature babies are unable to survive without life support. Should we consider them alive or not? Since they need the help of others humans, such as the embryo/fetus relies on the umbilical cord, should we make it legal for the parents to choose to terminate them also if it is going to be too expensive or inconvenient, etc?
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An egg can't make a choice. As heartless as that sounds, it's true.
On your point about preemies. They're born. At least from a legal standpoint in all 50 states, they have rights at that point. Before that, it varies but, for example, there's no state where you can walk into a clinic 8 1/2 months pregnant and get an abortion because you suddenly changed your mind.
But now I ask you this. Please correct me if I'm wrong - but are you not a supporter of the Tea Party? If not, ignore my next question.
Do you know how expensive preemies are? Who pays for this? There aren't many parents who have 6 figures lying around to pay for a troubled pregnancy and many insurance companies have caps on benefits - to say nothing of those who are uninsured. Who pays the $100K-$500K for these situations?
It's what I've always said is the discussion nobody wants to have about health care - end of life discussions - even when that life is just starting out.
When my youngest daughter was born, she was fine, healthy and HUGE - an ounce shy of 10 pounds. She choked on something which was dealt with but the hospital wanted to play things safe and run some tests with a neonatal surgeon on standby. Because no neonatal surgeoun was around for 2 days, she was sent to Boston's Children's Hospital.
When I walked into the Neo-Natal ICU.. I can't describe what I saw. Easily a dozen setups that looked like Darth Vader's Control Center. Monitors, wires, readouts and tiny hoses hooked up to the unbelievably tiny babies. On the back wall was my 10-pound Broad-zilla who was literally over three times the size of these others.
My daughter was only there one night and, back in 1992, that cost well into 5 figures. By my estimation, those kids were costing up to a quarter million dollars a day (10-12x the $10K-$20K the one night cost to our insurance company). That's just ONE hospital in Boston.
Abortion is NOT a simple argument or debate.
If we say that a fetus has legal rights and is entitled to legal protection - what do we do about the woman who doesn't take care of herself in any way shape or form - eats a lousy diet, maybe takes drugs and has a miscarriage. Do we prosecute her for negligent homicide? I mean, right now, in some states, if a drunk driver hits a pregnant woman who is far enough along, they DO charge the drunk with murder if 'the baby dies'.
Do you see what I mean about this not being a simple discussion - no matter how much we as Americans WANT simple answers.