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Old 10-28-2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RichieLion View Post
So I guess you want to celebrate those who want to change our government? How, and in what way? You're no longer satisfied with the government as set forth by our founding fathers?

If that's what you mean, you're going to get a lot of opposition, believe me; and you can get as outraged as you want, but the socialist/communist form of government that the OWS is seeking is not going to be accomplished without resistance.

The President could be eliciting less opposition if he was working to increase opportunity instead of to increase redistribution of private resources. Endless handouts only serve to create a permanent underclass. That way of thinking only demoralizes the downtrodden and irritates those who's resources gained from hard work is confiscated. There's a better way, and that way is to open up the floodgates to opportunity by getting out of the way of business with a decreased and a certainty in taxes, and scaling back growth killing regulations. Particularly the regulations that handcuff the energy producers in this country need to be severely diminished.

I would also like to see the billions of dollars you point out that is going around the world in aid to be cut out entirely to countries that don't act in our interests.
What is frustrating about this position and the regular socialist/communist labeling, is that you ignore the repeated requests to answer whether ANY revenue producing legislation is justifiable. We are not talking about changing the government, We are not talking about "eating the rich" and giving it all away as handouts to 'deadbeats'. What is being asked is whether the Republican position of no new revenue is realistic.

How about if it is characterized this way: Congress approves a gradual return to the tax structure of fifty years ago, baby steps if you want, and the money is used for rebuilding infrastructure. Not a single handout. Instead some additional people get a chance at landing a job. How about creating jobs with existing unemployment funds which are no longer doled out after a period of time, but can be earned by those who accept the jobs. And how about raising the capital gains tax a little. We are at half of what Reagan thought it should be. Who's earning all those capital gains? The 1% or the 99? Revise corporate taxation to provide loopholes for companies who return manufacturing to the US, hire more workers, and deposit their profits in US banks.

None of this stuff is socialistic or unconstitutional. We were smart enough a century ago to realize the 'robber barons' had found ways to accumulate most of the country's wealth. Federal income tax and other measures, and finally Social Security along other depression ending steps swung the pendulum back to what I would call a better balance.
Would you also condemn all those actions?

The fact is, it has happened all over again. And I don't think the "occupiers" will stop reminding us that it has.