I am sorry that you are confused so easily. I did read the thread,looked up Cloward-Piven and it became evident to me that your interpretation of their theory and my interpretation are very different. It begins when you call them radicals,I see them as sociologists and activists. The term radical has a negative connotation to it so it makes perfect sense that you would look at their theory in that way. I must admit that my judgement is somewhat clouded by the fact that the great Glenn Beck is all over this conspiracy theory and I have trouble believing anything he espouses.