My point is that I can find a Tim McVeigh just as easily as I can find a Mohammed Atta. *Examples* are easy to find and, let's face it, the news specializes in catering to our fears and sensationalizing things.

I certianly agree that there are those who act as moles. They're brainwashed and there's almost nothing (to my knowledge) that you can do to change that without direct intervention.

I don't have to delve deep into Christianity to find violence - the Old Testament is LOADED with it. Massacres of every man woman and child just because they're a different tribe? It's all there.

Christianity has co-existed with secular society for a while now. It's had time to 'grow up'. But that's THIS country. There were Christians bombing Christians in Ireland until just a few years ago. 15,000 were killed by Christians in Lebanon in one massacre where the Israelis stood by and watched.

The more I think about it, the more I believe that it is our economic success that "puts religion in it's place" - and that place is in the heart between a person and whatever God they worship.

Where do all these radicals come from? They come from places where they never hear the phrase "the street is being torn up for sewer construction" or something similar.

I *do* agree that moderate muslims need to get the word out MORE and certainly in a LOUDER way. It's easy for ME to find plenty of it with some Google-fu skills but Joe Sixpack needs to hear it as does everyone else.