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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna
[/I]Richie, let's begin by me admitting that I was wrong in my criticism of the House as being totally responsible for government spending. I was wrong. Both spending and taxation is the responsibility and must be approved by both houses of Congress. So in that only the House is controlled by the Republicans, I was wrong in criticizing only them for the continuation of profligate spending by our government. Both houses of Congress and both political parties share the blame. I apologize.
But I don't agree that I was wrong in criticizing the Congress for our spending and deficit problems. Neither of the other two parts of the government have much to say about the fiscal avarice we've seen demonstrated in Washington for many years. Oh, the President starts the process by submitting a budget proposal, but for many years the Congress has rejected those proposals almost out of hand and proceeded to do their own form of "budgeting", often skipping the budgeting supposed to be done in House sub-committees and committees and moving directly to the creation of a gigantic and general "omnibus spending bill" containing very little specificity as to where money should be spent and how it will be paid for.
So the President has a little bit to do with spending--he starts the budgeting process and then finishes it by saying either yes or no, signing the spending bills or vetoing them. I can't see where the judicial branch has anything to say about fiscal issues at all and the Constitution grants them no such powers.
But I still assign most of the blame for the continuation of excessive government spending to the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. If you'll recall, it was the Republican leadership who couldn't reach any sort of reasonable compromise on the reduction of spending while debating a recent "continuing resolution" authorizing government spending. It was the Republican-controlled House that said "absolutely no" to any kind of tax reform. And it was the Republican-controlled House that after months of back and forth debate among themselves could only come up with $38.5 billion in cuts over a ten year future period. That was less than a 1% cut in spending. And they delayed reaching agreement on those puny spending cuts so long that it lead to the loss of the country's AAA credit rating! After the fact analysis of their "cuts" by the Government Accounting Office showed that in fact there were no cuts at all. It was the same old phony baloney smoke and mirrors, find the cuts under the moving shells game played by the Democrats before them, as well as what the GOP did when they controlled the Congress before the Democrats, during the Bush years.
So yes, I'm blaming the Congress...and the Congress alone. I'm specifically NOT blaming the President. Could he have used the bully pulpit more effectively? That's a good question. It seems to me that whenever he tried--remember the "grand bargain"?--his attempts got swept away in partisan politics. There was an absolute refusal of the House to try to use the POTUS' proposal as a negotiating starting point. It was a "no, my way or the highway" type of legislative statesmanship.
So to respond to your comment...yes I am blaming the Congress.
Now, if we keep our eyes and ears open and try to pry ourselves away from the negative primary election advertising, the whole process for 2012 starts again in a week or so. The President is required by law to present his budget proposal by February 1. It tells Congress what the President recommends for overall federal fiscal policy, as established by three main components: (1) how much money the federal government should spend on public purposes; (2) how much it should take in as tax revenues; and (3) how much of a deficit (or surplus) the federal government should run. Let's see how much thought the Congress gives to that budget proposal.
I'm guessing about a minute and a half before the politicizing of President Obama's 2012 budget proposal begins.
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Thanks for the apology, but it wasn't necessary. It's only conversation and not a personal matter between us. I appreciate the graciousness never the less.
OK; in regard to the rest of this post.
Much of it seems a bit convoluted and containing what I think of as convenient terminology.
"Tax Reform": you are using this term to condemn the Republican Congress, and specifically in your OP, the Tea Party Caucus. Why don't you and the media and the rest of the Democrat Establishment say what you really mean.
You mean
tax increases. Tax reform is just the convenient term so that you don't appear asking for what you're asking for.
Thankfully, at least for a time, the Tea Party Caucus' rising influence caused the Republican Establishment leadership, which is complicit in overspending as you point out, to step back and stand on a "firm" ground of "no new taxes". Unlike you, I take this as a good thing.
These tax increases, or new taxes, are always so "reasonably" presented as being coupled with "spending cuts". The rub?; these spending cuts are projected to come into play incrementally over time, and the tax increases are immediate and permanent. In the years ahead the spending cuts are systematically discarded, by and large, while the tax increases (new taxes) are with us forever.
The President's budget? You're speaking about the same President who ballooned our debt and deficits? The same President who is asking for over a Trillion Dollars more debt ceiling. God help us.