medills: see just like I said ...refer to the aforementioned posts yelling loudly, call the questioner a liar and demeaning them In law when the facts are with you argue the facts and when its the law arging the law. However if in any effort to come to the defense of Obama make up anything that comes to mind that will stop them in their tracks but never argue the facts nor if its constitutionality.

Many catholics were upset that Norte Dame and the Catholic church embraced Obama because of his abortion record. Well well well now its the Catholic Church's turn to get thrown under the bus. Obama is on the fringes here and needs to be stopped before we lose more of our individual rights