SkyGuy writes: "It's all too obvious that you, Dale and other like minded people like to falsely spin things out of context to try and minimize and discredit positions expressed by those on the right. I and probably most views from the right do NOT advocate the elimination of Social Security and Medicare and your spinning will NOT mask the fact that we think that spending should be controlled and not subject to bastardization of the distributions of those supposedly dedicated funds to the non-contributors that were never intended to receive a free handout when those programs began."

In other words, I want my lifetime Social Security benefits (more than I ever paid into the program) and lifetime Medicare benefits (both started from Democrat Presidents) but do not give any government assistance to needy people. Let them live in a refrigerator carton under a bridge and eat from a dumpster.