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Originally Posted by djplong
Father Benson, who was quoted in the link you provided, seems to be SOMEWHAT at odds with the official Vatican position that I found here:
Respect for the dignity of the dying
I started having problems with Section 4. Although they DO speak of allowing for pain medication to ease the suffering of terminal patients, there are also lines such as the following:
The arrogance is sickening. A DNR or a living will is a cry for attention??? Now, a 'regular' suicide attempt is very often exactly what they say - but the cases of people suffering from disease or other terminal/chronic malady? Sorry. They're wrong here. I've related the case of my grandmother before - and I think I've also spoken about my adoptive mother's suicide. I was the only one she told when she made her plans specifically because she did NOT want an army of rescuers telling her what was best for her (since an army of doctors already told her she wouldn't get better).
Yes, they say it's ok to "die naturally", but their definition of "naturally" and mine have some differences.
You're certainly right in that a CHURCH cannot be forced to do something that is anathema to their faith. To use another contemporary example, a church cannot be forced to perform a gay marriage. By the same token, they shouldn't be forcing THEIR beliefs on others when engaged in more public activities. Here's something I found when checking on Vatican bigotry:
So, in your mind, should a Catholic hospital be allowed to ban gays from employment?
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"A request for death on the part of those in grave suffering - as surveys of patients and testimonies of clinicians close to situations of the dying show - is almost always the last expression of the patient's hearfelt request for greater attention and human closeness as well as suitable treatment, two elements which are sometimes lacking in today's hospitals."
Whose arrogance is sickening?!?! How does one conclude from this quote that a DNR is a "cry for attention"?!? "Heartfelt request for greater attention and human closeness" is what it says. Have you no intelligence on matters of the heart? of love? of need for the closeness of loved ones as a soul slips away into an unknown place called death? People need people, it is as plain and simple as that. Yet you twist and turn the statement of facts into some perverse interpretation? Have you sat by the side of a loved one as they suffered and died? as they questioned their faith or lack of? once again, you miss the point.
WOW, you sir never cease to amaze me...