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Originally Posted by Bucco
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ROUGH AND TUMBLE...absolutely. I have spent most of my adult life in and out of politics (REAL politics, not forums) and of course that is expected. HOWEVER, what you seem to manifest and feel proud of is less than civil. The name calling is, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO DENYING THIS, childish at best. Your time and those who wish to partake would be better served by understanding what civil discourse and discussion actually is.
I disagree that simply by being a public figure you are " fair game for derision". You surely are fair game for criticism but in my USA, it is done with some civility and respect that your opinion IS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
And you say "We can abide by standards as we are adults". Obviously our definition of ADULTS differs. I know of NO ADULTS who call public figures by name, and as you see this as YOUR forum, others read it..not just you and perhaps your cronies. This forum is losing posters and readers as a result of this kind of NON ADULT activity.
Again, you should enjoy your forum..the way you want it..no thought...no civility and absolutely without a doubt no discussion of ANY PERTINENT political issues that confront the country.
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Bucco: I happen to agree with both of your posts. You make reference that you were involved in politics so you know that the gap has widended greatly between liberal and conservative, Why that happened I leave to the historians but it has frustrated and paralyzed the legislative process.
Congress once had a healthy balance of liberal and conservative in both parties and they fought hard for their causes but at the end of the day they remained friends. Now it is a continuing game of one upmanship and conducted in a vile and angry manner
This one upmanship also existed for a time in corporation but leaders recognized the damage this was doing to achieving goals. Ergo the era of team building such as white water rafting, etc
As we find the situation today I don't believe that one person can sway another person's opinion because far too many of voters have never acquired critical analytical skills. For example, its easy, at face value, to accept that the government gives away free things but voters don't stop to think of what they are giving up
We need the Bill Buckley's and Pat Monihan's to achieve well thought out policies. The legislative process today from bill to policy is so poorly defined and defended that the government is implementing bupkus