This:

"This is a radical conservative Forum without hope of change."

is an out to lunch statement. To use it as a statement as to why one would leave this forum only states your opinion....which is all most of us do. And to think for one moment you measure whether you have converted anybody here is a measure of success or not is also out to lunch.

It is so very simple to maintain ones opinion and to stand and be counted for ones beliefs. Even more simple to ignore that with which one disagrees. To engage in a political, for lack of a better description, contest with the notion or objective to either "win" or change the opposition's stance is a rather lofty, unobtainable objective.

In quitting, an adversary, real or imagined does not win, the quitter loses!!!!

btk

PS....I forgot to mention your opinion quoted above, in my opinion, is so completely wrong. You apparently have not been exposed to REAL radicals.