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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna
When attempts were made to have informational meetings on various proposals being considered, most of those meetings quickly deteriorated into near violent shouting matches between the political opponents. How can anyone sponsor a debate when the opposing parties aren't listening to one another, not talikng to one another, and often simply shouting soundbites provided by political operatives?
As far as legislative shenanigans are concerned, I din't think it's even been suggested, let alone alleged, that any lobbyists ever met wigh the POTUS. Congress drafted and passed the bill. If the POTUS was complicit, it was because he failed to veto what seems to have turned out to be a faulty bill in lots of ways.
Again, we're assigning way too much of the credit and/or criticism for ObamaCare to the President, who had very little to do with the ultimate drafting of the legislation.
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I never saw those meeting he promised...I watch CSPAN all the time and still never saw it. I did see the meeting your are referring to..the so called "town hall" meeting which we now find were bogus, and filled with misinfomation. ON BOTH SIDES BY THE WAY, but one side was not
supposed to know anything.
Listen I am not defending any Republicans here, but getting tired of the same drumbeat which has no basis in fact. He promised public hearings, which in themselves would have lent to civil discussions and should have included not only legislators but those in the field so the american people could see what was going on with such a very expansive and expensive program.
YOU ARE CORRECT, that the President had no much to do with the drafting.on that I agree, which to me is a pretty serious default of his presidential respondibilities. We are not talking about passing something to approve a park bench here.
My backroom deal reference was not dealing with lobbyists...recall how he got the senator from LA to vote for it ?????? And he had to do that with even Democrats.
If I missed a shouting match on public tv about the CREATION of this bill, please correct me..please. If I missed inclusion of but a very few in the CRAFTING of this bill, please let me know