This thread is a classic example of liberals "magic thinking." The reason liberals lean toward "magic thinking" is because they fail to understand that there are limits to the "natural law".

Technically no one is entitled to anything. building on that premise you have people who are born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Others use their skill sets to build a life. Many defer payments todays for future benefits. Still further some people for one reason or another have genuinely been disadvanyaged from the start.

Some people genetically are pre-disposed to maladies, while others will go through life without as much as a cold.

Since the beginning of time person(s) have pitched security requiring people surrrender control of their lives to gain said security.

Science is not exact nor is it ever settled.

Some people do abuse their bodies while others are victims of their genetics.

Beginning in ther 1980 insurance companies began to demand peer reviews making decisions that should have been left with a physician. The government has done the same with medicaid/medicare and now wants control of the entire medical community

I believe medical decisions should be left in the hands of doctors. They can best decide if an obsese person is being irresponsible or has organic reasons for the obseity. I sure don't want an insurance company or a government employee deciding for me. Yes I understand that there are a few doctors who participate in fraud but that can be managed

Finally people should focus on what good health means to them rather than being judgemental as to who is entitled to health care and who should not, such a position some, may view, as being arrogant.

I opine, you decide.....