Hey folks, this thread is becoming positively civil! Thanks!

So if the debate continues on this, I'd like to home in on what I think is the most important point, the President's decision to go "all in" on health care. At the risk of sounding adoring, I think it was an historic, courageous decision.

I have serious reservations about aspects of the law. I think the insurance mandate is constitutional but still problematic as written. The medicare expansion and reform provisions must be played out to find and fix the weaknesses.

But back to my big picture. We desperately need health care reform. I'm glad someone had the guts to start it and willingness to be attacked by the strongest armies of wealth and power ever assembled. (And just wait for the election superpacs!)

And I think the President's quest, especially in the economic environment we all faced, rather easily brushes aside the more polite accusations of inexperience, double-talk, blackmail, back room politics etc.