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Originally Posted by ijusluvit
Hey folks, this thread is becoming positively civil! Thanks!
So if the debate continues on this, I'd like to home in on what I think is the most important point, the President's decision to go "all in" on health care. At the risk of sounding adoring, I think it was an historic, courageous decision.
I have serious reservations about aspects of the law. I think the insurance mandate is constitutional but still problematic as written. The medicare expansion and reform provisions must be played out to find and fix the weaknesses.
But back to my big picture. We desperately need health care reform. I'm glad someone had the guts to start it and willingness to be attacked by the strongest armies of wealth and power ever assembled. (And just wait for the election superpacs!)
And I think the President's quest, especially in the economic environment we all faced, rather easily brushes aside the more polite accusations of inexperience, double-talk, blackmail, back room politics etc.
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Civil is easy actually....there are just a few who find some personal satisfaction in not knowing anything and insuring we all know that by their one line nonsensical posts.
First, want to remind you that this thread was NOT strictly about the mandate in the health care law. The thread was begun to point out how this President, his entire career, says and does whatever is politically expediant for him at the time, without regard to the country.
Health care reform was agreed to by both sides if you recall. Nobody was against it, so it took no courage to address the problem. As I said it would have been courageous, at least in my mind, to stick with what you promised instead of being "pushed around" (my words) by Pelosi, et all and selling out to lobbyists and other politicians.
I have trouble getting over that because we have wasted so much time now that could have been better invested in the COSTS of health care.
Thanks for saying my "accusations" were polite..normally at this point I am dubbed a racist, radical or someone with hate which is so far from truth but thanks for saying it in that manner. I do not agree however as this health plan alone is so fraught with future ECONOMIC impossibilities as to be scary. It touches all aspects of our lives ECONOMICALLY.
Again, how about the second item I brought up on this Presidents ability to waver always ?
Again, thanks for being civil. I have actually started in one direction on an issue in this forum and been convinced to change, but and this is not meant to be aimed at you...but never changed on blind, non fact based loyalty as seems to be the case with this President.