[twinklesweep]

Originally Posted by twinklesweep

Curious if the army sergeant in Afghanistan who left his base, broke into nearby civilian homes, and murdered 16 people, 9 of them children, is a "criminal" or a "terrorist." Or is this going be played out as "mental illness"? Opinions, please?

We in North America are to a great extent not aware of the number of attacks like this happening in Europe, especially in many parts of France, in Sweden (Malmo), and other places, mainly because the media here don't focus on it. BBC News and CNN tell us more about it--if we listen. But these attacks ARE happening, and they are just as tragic as this incident. There is just no answer for children whose lives are stolen from them, and for their families who must forever live with this.

It seems almost silly to me that I am quoting myself. However, I just received the following in an email which started circulating in Europe and focuses not on weapons but on attitudes. I did check Snopes on this, as I do on all stories like this, and all it says is that it did NOT originate from Senator Lieberman. It does NOT say that it is not real! As I said, we do not get the full news picture here in the U.S., and if what the email says, even in France, where the shooting took place that started this thread, they do not circulate the full picture. For what it's worth, this will at least bring what is happening to our attention.

I also note that no one answered my request for opinions about whether the army sergeant who killed the civilians in Afghanistan should be considered a "criminal" or a "terrorist" -- or maybe something else?

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Very bad news from the Jewish community in France - PLEASE read and SEND....

I received this email today and was asked toforward it on. please read!

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently not being reported as it should.

To give you an idea of what's going on in that country where there are now between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews, here is an E-mail that came from a Jew living in France ..

Please read! "Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?" He writes: "I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back and do nothing.

Nowhere have the flames of anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France ..
1. In Lyon , a car was rammed into a synagogue and set on fire.
2. In Montpellier , the Jewish religious center was firebombed;
3. so were synagogues in Strasbourg and Marseilles ;
4. so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.
5. A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with Molotov cocktails
6. and on the statue of Alfred Dreyfus, in Paris , the words 'Dirty Jew' were painted.
7. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars.
8. The bus that takes Jewish children to school in Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.
9. According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen 10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past 30 days.
10. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been defaced with slogans proclaiming 'Jews to the gas chambers' and 'Death to the Jews.'
11. A gunman opened fire on a kosher butcher's shop (and, of course, the butcher) inToulouse, France
12. A Jewish couple in their 20's were beaten up by five men in Villeurbanne , France (the woman was pregnant).
13. A Jewish school was broken into and vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a friend, or merely a person with the capacity and desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do - at least - these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let yourself become deluded into thinking that this is not your fight.

I remind you of what Pastor Neimoller said in World War II:

First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and, unlike them, France exports more than just oil and hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes. Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and, whatever else we may know about the French, we most certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a hurricane in the face of well-directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends, and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of good conscience that you know and let them know that you - and the people that you care about - need their help.

The number one bestselling book in France is 'September 11: The Frightening Fraud' which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon!

PLEASE PASS THIS ON. LETS NOT HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!