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Old 05-02-2012, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone View Post
Richie, my misunderstood pal, employees of the Federal government have several unions they can choose to represent them. There is the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), National Federation of Federal Employees (NFFE), National Association of Government Employees (NAGE) and several more. HR offices have a person who is a specialist in labor relations to deal with the unions.

Unions in government are valuable for the employees - and it is not in setting salaries. It is useful in cases concerning merit promotion, disclipinary actions, reassignments, transfers, equal employment opportunity, discrimination based on sex or race, or many other issues.

Unions can be a pain in the butt for HR offices to work with but they have helped employees in many situations.
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Originally Posted by njbchbum View Post
public sector union active emps and retirees have "agreed to changes in work rules and changes in health plans and pension plans in order to survive in the new reality." TOO!
I know what you're saying but the realities are different for public and private. When there's no profit motive, things are different and no amount of relating good work done is applicable to what I'm discussing.

Profit (cash) is not created by employees of public unions in order to facilitate and demonstrate their value, and that's just a fact of life.

All renumeration received by public employees is extracted from the private sector. You might say as a loyal public sector employee that the services you provide is just being paid for, but that's a stretch and a half, as taxpayers have no choice in the matter, and little say in the "purchase".

I know some states, as Florida has under the leadership of Rick Scott, been a little successful in scaling back some union employees benefits. I'm not sure what Gov. Scott did, but usually it's a form of "blackmail", where the employees agree to "givebacks" in order to avoid threatened layoffs, or even elimination of a department. In many unionized states this doesn't work as the workers have "tenure rights" and are just reassigned.