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Originally Posted by memason
Sorry Opus, I'm not picking on you.... Why in the world would you leave anything for poor service?
What is a tip for anyway? Who should you tip? ...your hairdresser, waitress, waiter, hostess ??, guy who washs your car, the guy who drys it, the guy sacking your groceries.... My problem is, it never ends!
I guess I'm a bad person, but I would never consider tipping a person in a donuts shop, no matter how long I used their time...that's what they're there for and the last time i looked, they were called employees and should be paid a fair salary by their employer...
do you tip the counter person at Panera's ? How about Starbucks ? SHould I tip my Sales Rep, when I'm there in May???
Sorry for the rant...I'm just really confused by some of the comments . . ..
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It's not so cut-and-dry. If the service was bad because the server was too busy, overwhelmed, or made mistakes, THEY ARE HUMAN. They won't expect 20% but if they are apologetic and still did the best they could then they had a rough night, still tip them 15% or even the full 20% if you are sympathetic and want to return for another go.
Now on the other hand - if the service was AWFUL (beyond poor) as in the server didn't even try, didn't care, and was flat out rude...that is when it is appropriate to tip 10% but honestly any less is just WRONG. Servers get paid almost HALF of minimum wage which disintegrates into NOTHING once they are taxed on the hourly wage as well as total sales AND they have to pay a percentage of their sales (regardless of amount of tips) to bartenders, bussers, and often hostess. So if you tip nothing, they are PAYING to work, LITERALLY. They cannot pay bills or make a living i.e. feed their kids, pay rent, gas, utilities, etc. You mentioned salary...they don't get one.
As far as Panera - no, there is no tip jar. Starbucks, a dollar or left over change is courteous but not expected. Sales rep...I know you are being facetious but they make commission, servers at restaurants DO NOT and rely on tips to survive.