Originally Posted by billethkid

I have no problem at all with a goal of becoming a socialized nation if that is what in fact is the best for the country and we the people.

What I strenuously object to is the hap hazard, no plan, no follow through, no funding political football, buy votes approach to getting there. Because we won't that way even if it is the best solution for our future.

Of course it would be worth the higher taxes paid to make it happen. In our politically divided, self centered, we the people are last on the totem pole environment....that just will not happen.

In Belgium you will find unhappiness with the system because those who have the money to pay the tax rates do not like carrying those who might never pay a dime. That would be the loudest cry of all here in America and the primary cause for doing the willy nilly way we are....with the buying of votes as the objective....instead of doing right for the people and the country.

When I hear BS like Obama being the "warrior for the middle class" it makes me sick to my stomach because he has no intention other than his promises.....with the only goal to get their votes.
When is the last time we heard Obama say....here is what we are going to do for the middle class....here is how we are going to do it....and here is how we pay for it and this is when it will begin??????

We are suffering as a country now because of the political lack of leadership. To do a socialized plan takes real leadership and political risk.
That will never happen with an Obama administration.

btk