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Old 05-28-2012, 09:06 PM
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Not sure if you could call a fetus a person who is conscious for most if not almost all abortions. Top 10 Anti-Abortion Myths - Top 10 Myths About Abortion
The only important issues in the whole ten which are in the article you linked are numbers 1 and 10. They’re the only ones that have anything to do with the human life in the womb of it’s mother. I have to assume since you linked this without comment, that you concur with the thoughts of this author.


(1. "You can't be pro-choice and be anti-death penalty/anti-war at the same time."False. The pro-choice position is predicated on the idea that women have the right to decide whether to carry their pregnancies to term. The victims of the death penalty and war are fully conscious persons rather than presentient entities in a woman's womb, so the moral questions involved are entirely different.)

Lot’s of assumption here. The author doesn’t mention the age of the baby. A baby’s heart beats at 18 days from conception and his brain activity can be detected at 6 weeks from conception. That’s a conscious person by any definition.

6 to 7 Weeks | Prenatal Overview

Also, the author doesn’t discuss the baby’s soul. Then again, maybe the author doesn’t have one and his omission is understandable

You want to stand on OK’ing the destruction of innocent life over convicted murderers, that’s your conscious.

(2."Human life begins at conception."False. Human life actually begins prior to conception, because each sperm and egg cell is a living thing. It is more relevant to discuss when sentience, or self-awareness, begins. In 2000, the British House of Lords established a Commission of Inquiry into Fetal Sentience, which estimated that higher-level brain development begins to commence at about 23 weeks.)

This author states that he grants life with higher-level brain development. How many babies are born prior to 23 weeks and survived? This author again is making statements and assumptions that are ludicrous.

It is an undisputed biological scientific fact that human life begins at conception; at the union of the father’s sperm and the mother’s ovum, which is called fertilization.
From the very moment of conception the fetus contains all the genetic information that baby will have for the remainder of his life. Any embryology book will confirm that this new, unique human creation is a defined sex and is alive, complete and growing.

At the very moment of it’s conception, this creation is completely human in every one of his characteristics, totally unique from every other living organism. He has the same 46 chromosomes he will have until death.

That means they deserve all the same rights to life that other individuals enjoy. Even if someone has doubts, there is certainly enough reasonable biological facts to give an unborn baby the benefit of the doubt. If you’re not sure someone’s dead or alive, you don’t bury them, right?

The protection of life should be the final word on this topic.

“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”

No human being should be discriminated against based on his or her stage of development, place of residence (inside the womb) or arbitrary notion of “when life begins”.