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Old 05-31-2012, 08:28 AM
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Richie, I'll put this as politely as I can - and not that I'm angry at you or anything - I'm not. It's just that what I'm about to describe can be disturbing.

Back in 1991, my (now-ex) wife had a miscarriage. What I had to clean up off the floor wasn't what I would call "human". It was something that, clearly, the body rejected (as happens, apparently to approximately 1/3 of all pregnancies).

Because I don't view a one-cell organism as having the same rights as you, me or any other living human doesn't make me a monster. Quite the contrary - what I see is the potential. It's a blueprint and, WITH THE PROPER CARE, if there aren't too many genetic mistakes, you'll have someone in 9 months. You'll have "viability" sooner than that.

In the old days of film photogrpahy, everyone would say they "took pictures". But it wasn't "a picture" until you sent the film to the lab, had it developed and prints made.

Yes, as soon as fertilization is complete, you have a 100% blueprint for a unique (barring twins/triplets/etc) individual. This, however, still requires a LOT of "care and feeding". Again, I don't think I'm saying anything that controversial.

But if you go and "grant full rights" to a single-cell organism, have you thought this through? It means *every* miscarriage becomes a case of suspicion of, at the very least, negligent homicide. It means forcing parents to bring anencephalic babies or Tay-Sachs babies into this world.

Look, I dont' believe that someone should be able at, say, 8 months pregnant, to be able to walk into a clinic and get an abortion. IMO, she had plenty of time to think about it BEFORE then. I also know it's pretty much impossible to get one at that stage around here. Just as a reminder, Roe v. Wade DOES allow for 3rd trimester restrictions. It's not the "free pass" that so many seem to think it is.

Richie, you insist that I'm "pro-abortion", which I'm not. I don't like it and never have. You talk about "pro abortionists" using the tactic of "dehumanizing" the fetus - isn't that what you're doing with me by constantly pinning that label?
Before the unconstitutional Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided by the Supreme Court, abortion was illegal. No parents of a baby that was miscarried or lost otherwise were ever looked at with anything but concern and pity at the unexpected loss of the human being taken from them.

The loss of your baby was a tragedy, and I sympathize with the horror you and your family went through, but fail to see how dehumanizing the growing human being helps you, or somehow excuses and justifies abortion.