bbqman - if as you foresee, public sector unions cease to exist [at least in large numbers], how do you predict the general public will react when the politicians have the opportunity to dismiss emps at will from the top of the chain to the bottom - resulting in even slower processing than is seen today. timely response to issues, reimburesments, licenses/registrarions and other items processed by public sector is not terribly stellar today - and that is with knowledgable emps...i can only imagine going to the florida dmv with a new cast of characters in training after every change in administration! sheesh!