[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

I just noticed this post for the first time. I've read all of the books you've been mentioning and seen the DVD

I get the science behind it all.

They may also understand it, but not too many want to walk the walk.

2 1/2 percent of the us population walks the walk and growing in popularity.

She eats those soy products which are made into fake hamburgers and fake meat. I don't find them very appetizing.

yep they suck

Macaroni and cheese........broccoli, soy products.....that's about it.
I don't consider that a healthy diet.

Sounds like a vegetarian not vegan diet

But sometimes, one does crave a hamburger on the grill.
Do you bring your own food when invited to a barbecue?
Or, just eat the corn on the cob and a green salad?
No pasta salads, etc. No mayo, so no potato salad?

hamburger no, there are 100's of other bbq things to make including rice or whole wheat pastas.

When vegan cookbook author John Schlimm throws a summertime barbecue, don't expect him to throw a bunch of soy burgers and veggie dogs onto the grill and call it good.

"I want to show that there's so much more that can go on the grill than frozen veggie burgers and asparagus," he says. "You can put just about anything on the grill."

Recipes included with this story: Rainbow Carrots With Cilantro Chile Drizzle; Tex-Mex Tempeh for TwoTropical Kebabs With Raspberry and Cointreau Dip.

That's one of the reasons Schlimm wrote the just-released "Grilling Vegan Style," which features 125 recipes designed to add bite to any plant-based backyard barbecue. He also wanted to prove that grilling isn't just the domain of meat lovers.

read more how us poor vegans deprive ourselves

Every now and then isn't going to kill anyone.

perhaps but it can't help, after a 2-3 months all these cravings one may have disappear wen you step on a scale or look at your test results and just realize you have more energy.

We were just chatting this morning about all of our friends who have died of cancer......or who have it.........they all were excellent athletes, into competitive cycling in Europe and U.S........ate like RABBITS........bone thin..........(so there shoots the obesity theory) , shunned fried foods.......shunned my eggplant parm recipe as the eggplant had to be breaded and fried. We are still alive.

your correct, losing weight alone doesn't change the risk of cancer or cardio vascular issues.

If you eat foods that increase the those risks you may be alive as you say but alive and thrive are two different issues.

As also mentioned........a lot of it has to do with genetics.

Perhaps but newer research is indicating otherwise.

You said you get science behind it all but some of the things you say R going against that science, just saying...

I'm glad you you're at least interested in the subject.