Originally Posted by Bucco

I will admit readily to angst from this board. HOWEVER, almost 100% is from liars and flamers. I do not care if you disagree with me on anything at all but I cannot abide liars and what I have learned to call a flamer. I think both shows disrespect to ALL others on this board and that in addition to lack of respect for those you oppose.

In real politics, you expect it...part of the game TO AN EXTENT, BUT to have liars and such in THE VILLAGES is such a disappointment to me and you are correct, I show it too much and suppose I am naive in thinking that folks on here are here to reallly learn but not the case.

Yes, I am guilty of being much too thin skinned. Remember, in real politics, you can "get back" on folks and they KNOW it, so much of the lying is more of selective editing, and for the most part those you deal with are at least aware of the issues and stakes. On here, it is apparent that some posters are simply on a left wing or right wing reading list and that is the extent of their news...yep, that angers me a lot and when that is convered to disrespectful one liners, I DO in fact lose it a bit.

When this forum began, it was pretty much debate on the same lines as now. Difference was a number of years ago, those who posted actually gave you some reason for their thoughts and to a degree it was a thought out, valid thought whether you agreed to it or not. As I have often said, you can learn a lot from intelligent conversation. They could be and were nasty at times, but for the most part they were sincere posters who would disagree but tell you why and it was mostly based on facts or their version of facts.

That is what sent me on a lot of reading missions concerning our president and his background, and I will admit here and now, he had no chance with me basically because of his background and lies...that shut the door for me (As it does in my personal life...you lie or deceive me and thats it). I read archives from Chicago....both his autobiographies and anything I could find on him, thus my opinions.

I will tell you that just about everything I predicted on him came true, and as long as this country allows it, we have problems. I never compared him to Bush, with whom I have big problems on a ton of issues, but Bush is not, nor did make our President lie so much and be so devious.

And again...disagreeing with me DOES NOT BOTHER ME, if done with respect and based on facts and if both of us maintain an open mind.

I am beginning to learn...remember in my day, no internet, no cell phones, no nothing like this...you worked face to face basically. but I am learning how this internet age is ruining our society but let me step off the soap box now.....your last sentence says a lot and I always hoped that when I made a fool of them with facts and proving they just make things up but that doesnt work either, and THAT fact, that you are not embarassed by lack of knowledge and just keeping moving on without any education is a scary proposition for this countries future.

Thankfully, I am old enough, it isnt going to bother my future....and I hope that someday some of these quick smart mouths look back and understand how they shorted themselves, their country and their children.

Sorry....but thanks for a polite response !

PS....by the way, just for clarification sake...I do not simply hang out on here. Today, for example I watched the hearings on CSPAN and had the computer open here for emails and such.....my life is very full outside of politics. Oh, and as a Yankee fan, I also watched part of the game today....that also did not make me happy