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Originally Posted by ilovetv
THANK YOU.....for bringing in a big component of what has a LOT more to do with human cells mutating and going cancerous than whether we eat meat, milk, eggs, etc. or not.
I think there is a lot of confusion about the terms "genes" and "genetic" when
talking about what brings on or worsens th likelihood of cancer forming in us. Genes and genetics don't refer to just hereditary tendencies/traits. Genes and genetics also refer to the sets of instructions or codes witin cells that control how they form, work, and mutate.
This American Cancer Society page from its History of Cancer section is excellent and explains well some of the notions people rely on, thinking they can control cancer from ever forming in themselves.
Actually, only God can "control" or prevent any of this. But that would also require a person to resign from being General Manager of the Universe, to let God be in charge....and then ask him and listen for a response.
I know some are turned off by that, but read this interesting article anyway. We all learn something new every day.
"Modern knowledge and cancer causes"
By the middle of the 20th century, scientists had the instruments they needed to work on some of the complex problems of chemistry and biology that remained unsolved. James Watson and Francis Crick, who received a Nobel Prize in 1962 for their work, had discovered the exact chemical structure of
DNA, the basic material in genes.
DNA was found to be the basis of the genetic code that gives orders to all cells. After learning how to translate this code, scientists were able to understand how genes worked and how they could be damaged by mutations (changes or mistakes in genes). These modern techniques of chemistry and biology answered many complex questions about cancer.
Scientists already knew that cancer could be caused by chemicals, radiation, and viruses, and that sometimes cancer seemed to run in families. But as the
understanding of DNA and genes increased, they learned that it was the damage to DNA by chemicals and radiation, or the introduction of new DNA sequences by viruses that often led to the development of cancer. It became possible to pinpoint the exact site of the damage on a specific gene.
Scientists discovered that sometimes defective genes are inherited, and sometimes these inherited genes are defective at the same points that chemicals exerted their effect. In other words, most of the things that caused cancer (carcinogens) caused genetic damage (mutations), these mutations led to abnormal groups of cells (called clones), the mutant clones evolved to even more malignant clones over time, and the cancer progressed by more and more genetic damage and mutations. Normal cells with damaged DNA die; cancer cells with damaged DNA do not. The discovery of this critical difference answered many questions that had troubled scientists for many years....."
Modern knowledge and cancer cause
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In general, an excellent post. Many cancers are caused by "modern medicine" as it was perceived in the past......far too many xrays before the true risks were known (family member who had lots of xrays to abdominal area to detect if a "twin child" was present, later died of uterine and kidney cancer which spread to bones and brain. The xrays were too powerful back in the 1950's. Many who "over doctored" then are obviously dead now. Those who chose a more natural or holistic health path , did live to a ripe old age.
Chemicals, as you mention, in all of our "beauty products" ditto, unnatural to the body.
Occupational cancers for those who worked in the shipyards, plumbing or heating, automotive type industries where they breathed in a lot of chemicals.....without realizing at the time they were carcinogens.
On and on.....the perils of "modern life" since the 1950's.......wasn't that when the first "t.v. dinner" came out?
AGAIN, at the prospect of being repetitive.........we know dozens upon dozens of people who were health fanatics, shunning anything that tasted good as "poison to their body"........ate all the rabbit food, no oils, no meat, etc..........all died of cancer. So, go figure. It isn't necessarily the food............many of these deceased were avid cyclists, joggers, runners in marathons, did everything right as they perceived it to be...........however, if cancer runs in your family.......it can happen no matter what one does in the way of healthy habits.
Smoking is also a terrible habit as strong a pull as heroin, so they say.
Very addictive. The cause of most lung cancers. Why then did all the old Italian gents who smoked cigars live to a ripe old age? I've always wondered that. How different is a cigarette to a smelly cigar?