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Originally Posted by chachacha

yes, certainly the hippie "degeneration", the lure of "free love", widespread availability of contraception and legalization of abortion were all factors in tempting our generation onto paths which now in our older, wiser years, we may be able to look back on and see more clearly. the purpose of starting the conversation is to give moral support to those of us who want to live an improved life. these same societal changes have wrought many unwelcome results in the life of our nation, as well....we can only begin by changing ourselves...or at least holding onto our values and beliefs, and trying to live them. i so admire the few, like rubicon, who never fell prey to false idols. at our age now as singles, the false idols are appealing to our natural yearning for love and companionship, and we hopefully have acquired enough wisdom to discern them.

That is admirable. Also admire people like Olympic hurdler Lolo Jones who wants to remain a virgin until her wedding night. It seems like a personal decision too on her part and not something bracketed onto her by peer pressures from her religion. That takes more strength in IMHO. She is not part of the Mormon or some other religion which dictates no premarital sex.