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Old 07-17-2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ijusluvit View Post
It is in the normal litany of criticism of Obama by those whose current reputations and popularity, as per above, to perpetuate the false belief that the President is responsible for initiating the expenditure of far too many our our precious tax dollars. Phrased differently, a group of posters here have continued to harp on the "promises" made by Obama to affect this are that economic change. It does warrant a little sarcasm when the professional right-wingers and their amateur disciples here keep brushing Civics 101 aside.

But may i remind you of your breakthrough. In a recent post, you have finally stated that you recognize the constitutional position of the President in our government and hinted you might refrain from more hand-wringng over "broken promises". In my view, that is a new expression of open-mindedness and a sign that you are separating yourself from those who still say "damn reality, full criticism (and hatred) ahead!".
A few comments if I may....

First of all , I always recognized the limitations of the President and if you really think I am just plain stupid, then so be it. I have never come on here and listed the promises made and those broken...NOT ONCE...NEVER EVER an I challenge you to find anything much more than my problem with the LYING, and it was not forgotten promises, with the health care bill and his HYPOCRISY in the PERSONAL attacks on previous administration and then his embracing but still attacking. If you want I can probably find a list of broken promises somewhere as they abound on the internet but that is not my problem with this president and your ability to simply box me all up and KNOW is amazing because I have since before he was nominated made it clear what I oppose and in discussing his past three years I have talked about HIS LYING and his HYPOCRISY. I suppose I should be offended that you would think it was a breakthrough on my part as to his limitations, but I just expect this kind of stuff now.

Lets just understand something...I really resent being labeled as you seem to want to do with me. I said on here in 2007 or maybe early 2008 that he was a hypocrite and a liar and a manipulater. I stand by that.

And if you do not think he has promulgated financial change, then just hang on. We are in the throes of our country simply forgetting about and dismantling states rights and rulings by proclamation. I never said he spent this or that...I still say and nobody...NOT ONE PERSON..has challenged me that we cannot pay for the new health care law.....the bill on that of course is not due until in the future and in the meantime we simply HOPE AND PRAY that all the assumption in there actually take place. This at a time as we near financial ruin in this country.

You criticize the "right wingers" as you call them.....I enjoy actually coming on here and reading what the "left wingers" (I will use labels as you seem comfortable with them) and just laughing. They do not read anything...they simply attack. Today, a Fortune mag article posted but nobody noticed that it was a left wing writer by his admission, not my label. If I post something on here about any budget issues it is meant with nothing but Obama campaign material. No,you are certainly either eliminating certain posters on here from your "survey" or you are just flat out wrong. Are there those who do that....ABSOLUTELY....but your comment is just out of line.

I do just fine with Civic101....I also do well and notice and research before I post and if I am wrong, I WILL APOLOGIZE AND SAY IT. I have done it many...well more than I would like.....so please give me a bit of credit for knowing how the government works......I read all about our President in his younger years was he was 'training" like Romney was "training".....I read his autobiography and called him a liar on this board before the press did. I told VK as a matter of fact that there were descrepencies in 2008. I read about his time in Chicago..his quotes...etc...does not matter.

Just allow me to talk about ISSUES an stop labeling me...I have agreed and said so on here with a lot he has done, but nobody ever sees that I suppose.

Now, you tell me where I ever "perpetuate the false belief that the President is responsible for initiating the expenditure of far too many our our precious tax dollars."