Yepper, I know where you live and I am looking forward to the next round of poker. Looks like you guys need some more lessons. *S*

Buggy, even in full boby armour, its not all that you think it is. Anytime you start getting hit it hurts. Did you know that a frontal shot from a 45 ACP in to fully body armour will still knock you to the ground and a 12 gauge shotgun slug will kill you. It crushes your strum into your heart. Unless he was using ceramic plates the armour can be penatrated by a 22 long rifle. Also since he was wearing a gas mask, a head shot would have taken him out. Everyone really needs to get the facts when it comes to firearms, body armour and the rest of the stuff.

Even bouncing the little .380 or .25 auto off of him would have rattled him to the point that quite likely many lives would have been saved.

I would venture to guess that Holmes had never been shot at. You don't realize the amount of "pucker" factor that takes place when bullets start zipping around you and hitting you. Even in body armour.