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Originally Posted by ijusluvit
Your first sentence here is a direct contradiction to the post I responded to. You can't say he was "NOTHING but a politician", then say you've given him credit for some accomplishments.
And now you 'clarify' that Obama's real fault was showing "ZERO leadership in pulling Congress together". Wait! You just said he was "NOTHING but a politician". Politicians by definition are successful if they build the coalitions which get things done.
So Bucco, which way is it? You have really waffled on the above post. You know full well that Obama had to pull out all the stops to get the legislation which was passed in his first two years, especially the ACA. In 2010, the annual survey of american history and political science professors placed him as the 15th most effective President in history. Obama had to be the consummate politician and leader during that period. Many in his own party were fearful of the 'drastic" measures (see bailouts, especially auto companies), he proposed. The ACA was the biggest risk because of the fear of the unknown, which had to be accepted to redirect our awful current system, denial of coverage, etc. From the start the Republicans painted themselves into Mitch McConnell's corner. Their mantra, and that of the newborn teapartiers is "it can't be done". Their whole agenda now is to frighten the American people with every bad fantasy which can be conjured up. We are no longer the Can Do Americans.
As I've said before, my glass is half FULL. I am convinced the actions of the Obama administration including ACA have put us in a better position than we were in 2008, the deficit notwithstanding. I am concerned about the polarization between the administration and Congress, which is why I have not yet decided who will get my vote in November.
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Perhaps this is getting lost in the translation but you r comment "the deficit notwithstanding" is awesome. THAT it simply a HUGE and tremendous negative which cannot be passed off with "notwithstanding" and maybe we just do not share the same priorities. I see the healthcare bill as pushing us so far over the cliff in about 6 years we may as well give it up an I see the deficit that this man has ignored totally as ONE of the basics of what is killing this country. Just a very small example but this country is losing so much money right now as being an owner of GM but nobody cares. We will never every pay for this healthcare bill, and nobody cares (mostly because if was structured to be paid when he is gone)
I am sorry.....I see this country as being in really deep trouble, and we need somebody who can get us talking again. Is it Romney...I dont know....what I do know is that it is not the current occupant of the WH...he has failed at it and he can blame Bush all he wants...he can blame the rich all he wants...he can blame the house all he wants and he does blame all those people by the way, but he had three years and failed !
And allow me to close by saying that I disagree totally with you....A great politician is good at getting elected and making speeches. A leader gets things done and accomplishes bringing folks together and he, the President, has divided this country along so many different lines in the past 3 years which he learned in his community organizer days for sure.