Just so I understand we now have two posters calling these two non partisan groups....Congressional Research Service and the Center for Immigration Studies being called "bald faced" liars.

I try to make it a point when I make an accusation of any kind, I dont use the liar term much, but even then, I feel some sort of obligation to explain why I have used such stong language.

I expect we may not be hearing that from these two posters which says quite a bit.