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Old 08-13-2012, 08:09 PM
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blueash - you selected just one small piece of the material on factchecker re the aca...so i will post the link for all to look at the bigger picture...both the obama and romney exaggerations and misspeaks. here's just a few of them along with my thoughts:

obama said:

“if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” not true according to cbo

"the law would set minimum benefits packages" and if more than the minimum pkg is needed, folks will have to pay more for it; as opposed to their being able to receive the care their doctor determines they need and not having to paying more money for that care under the current system. and perhaps this is where charging for medicare advantage plans will com into play? that system panders to insurance companies, not to patients.

"While Medicaid will be expanded to more people, most Americans will continue to get their insurance through a private carrier." thus requiring those who pay taxes to pay more in order to support the increased number of people on the medicaid rolls.

"And by this August, nearly 13 million of you will receive a rebate from your insurance company because it spent too much on things like administrative costs and CEO bonuses and not enough on your health care." has anyone received that rebate payment? probably because the rebates to to employers. neither you nor the other 12,999,999 insureds will be receiving any rebate.

and by clarifying that the $500 billion is a "reduction in the future growth of Medicare over 10 years" can you explain how such economy is achieved if other than by reducing services, reducing payments to providers, and/or charging users a higher premium or co-pay? if you cannot, it would appear that future medicare could potentially offer users less while costing them more....no?
How about these and the first two are just plain basic and the first three he repeated so many times to get elected in 2008, they were his mantra on health care...

.....My bill, now law, will address and correct the rise of Health care COSTS. They are rising and will continue

.....My bill , now law, will have significant tort reform. This law has NONE

.....Discussion on my bill, now law will be super transparent and discussions will include both parties. The negotiations were held in secret back rooms, except for one dog and pony show AND the way it passed even with total control of both houses was paying blackmail to at least two states to get their vote (LA and SC) They also used the senate tricks to even get it passed then. CAN you imagine passing a law of this magnitude and cost with not one single vote from the other party, having to buy your own party votes also...can you imagine that.

I invite everyone..I have posted the supposed method of paying for this law and nobody ever comments on it. The CBO has revalued the cost at about 30% higher or more than when it was passed, UNREAD by those voting by their own admission