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Originally Posted by justjim
Rebel: I respectfully disagree with you and others who post "there are no irresponsible dogs only irresponsible dog owners". I've been told by a responsible dog trainer that there are some dogs that are just plain BAD. They can attack without warning----even mauling their owners. I certainly believe it because you can read about how the dog even killed its owner. Some breeds of dogs are very dangerous, especially around children. You can google dangerous breeds of dogs that have prove to be irresponsible. If you think you can control a bad dog, better think again. I know you are thinking their owner made them that way----better think again. Unfortunately there are bad dogs just like there are bad people.  As far as pet laws vary by county---don't know but enforcement might. I think that in a retirement community like TV that more effort is made to solve the issues by dialogue instead of arrests or enforcement. Seems reasonable to me. 
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Hi Just Jim...actually, I agree with your sentiments but I think we're saying different things. Yes, some dogs are just plain BAD...aggressive...evil...and dangerous. We had one that lived directly across the street from us. It was a big (100 pounds) German Shepherd and it was fearsome...it attacked my wife once when the owner had it on a leash...came within a hair's width of her skin...shredded my wife's shirt with it's teeth.

It was a BAD, AGGRESSIVE, EVIL dog...and it should have been put down. But, it was the dog owner who should have put the dog down. My neighbor said that from then forward he would treat the dog like a loaded gun. My reply was that I trusted him with a loaded gun because a gun is inanimate and he could literally control it. However, if that dog ever got loose, he would not be able to control him and the dog could/would kill anyone he came across. In my mind, he was an irresponsible pet owner...with an aggressive, evil dog. He still has the dog; the dog is still aggressive; the owner is still irresponsible; and if the dog ever gets loose and attacks one of the neighborhood children, the dog will destroy a neighboring family.

The neighbors still live in fear. We moved away.