[ssmith]

...seems to me since you amended your original post....that although you may not agree with everyone that you do see some valid points on both sides of the opininion....love that when one does that. Just know that this thread will likely carry on for while.....since it is a hot topic....it may not be directed at you and then some will direct comments to you even when they have not read the latest you have had to say....Keep posting....there are some really great and funny peeps on this forum....also meet team at TOTV luncheon.... I think you will enjoy it. Mind this though we are Wannabes....have not been able to come to Crispers. :-(