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Originally Posted by billethkid
"...asked to step aside allowing others with Ideas that might work give it a try...."
Stepping aside suggests giving up one's principals, which is not going to happen.
"...I do know that the good old days methods are no longer working nor appropriate to hang onto at this time...."
Based on what criteria?
"...trying to drag kids today into 1950's values is not going to happen..."
At no time was it mentioned to revert back to the 50's.....and a conclusion that good old days = old fogeys or something that doesn't work are personal opinions which may well not be general consesus or approval as presented!
"...a waste of time and unfortunately lives...."
it is never a waste of time when efforts are put forth or proposed to make things better.
Some of us refer to the good old days with no particular era or time frame in mind. Only a time when morals and tolerance and discipline were more prominent. Some of us are not objecting to the new "rights", but do strenuously defend the new rights need not degrade core values.
The simple notion that today = OK and yesterday = unacceptable is a single point of data/opinion.
For me this horse is more than dead and is approaching the state of wheel spinning......time to move on (very different from getting out of the way  ).
btk
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I agree BTK, this horse is more than dead, so since we agree on that, lets just drop this conversation and move on. It is obvious that you do not understand what I am trying to convey and GOD knows I do not understand your point of view. I spend a lot of time with my two daughters and my two granddaughters in an attempt to understand the problems they face in todays world and try to relate them to the OLD DAYS like you and I lived. Trust me, they are not the same today as they were, so the GOOD OLD DAYS mentality will not work for this younger generation. But, since you feel further discussion is not productive, I will honor your request and drop it.