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Originally Posted by ilovetv

I've known some who definitely seemed to be born more effeminate as a male and more male as a female.....and I've known what is probably an equal number who seem to have been conditioned into the homosexual lifestyle by adults who showed them affection they lacked and craved, the homosexual way. For some, inappropriate pedophile and homosexual affection is the only kind of affection they have ever known. (I remember reading olympic diver Greg Louganis' book talking about that.)

Whether or not one believes God's creatorship and authority over us is revealed in the Bible, it is clear the Apostle Paul was speaking here about people choosing, with their free will, to discard their knowledge of God and His commands, for the pursuit of their own passions....at their own risk:

Romans 1

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done....

Romans 1 NIV - Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called - Bible Gateway

This is man, however, not a god or God speaking through a man. Most religions have a method of manipulating people so that they act to the benefit of the most powerful group in that society pushing that religion. That's a little simplistic on my part as religions play many other functions than just control. My point is that some passages of the Old and New Testament look more like something that would come from Caesar, the Pope, Kings, Emperors, etc. rather than from any kind of spiritual plane.