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That said what really blew me away was his numbers! Resting HR of 47!!
PS. I for one follow your posts (and a few others) on this subject with great interest. I cannot say I have converted to a plant based lifestyle, but I have taken a serious look at how I eat and made some significant changes to the better due to a few posters on TOTV and my followup reading.
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Thanks AJ, aside from the wisecrackers, folks here really do read it, I always get the email or PM or two saying positive things.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
According to Carl Esselstyn we're all supposed to live on lettuce and celery. If you follow his program and you are not losing weight, he'll tell you that you're eating too many carbs. If it's still not working, you're eating to many calories. Then maybe you're eating processed foods.
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You know that isn't true vegans eat a lot more than lettuce and celery, I guess when you tried it, it just wasn't for you. Too bad it could have help your condition I think, those R the choices we make.
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Dean Ornish who has written books prescribing almost the same program that Esselstyn has, has admitted that their diets are very difficult to stick with.
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plant based is easier than waking up after open heart surgery or rehabbing after a stroke or heart attack .
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Esselstyn has some anecdotal evidence where his program has been successful, (as does every other nutritionist and doctor with a diet book out there) but there have been no long term studies have been conducted to show that people who adopt this style of eating will, number one, stay on the diet If they do manage to follow this very difficult program there is no hard evidence that they will lose weight and improve their cardiovascular health.
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Not TRUE at all totally mis stated 
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Some doctors also have concerns about the detrimental effects of a completely plant based diet. Not only is it unnatural for humans but the lack of certain nutrients may cause other problems in the long run.
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Such as? care to specify?
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This has worked very well for President Clinton but that doesn't mean that it will work for everyone.
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It will work for almost everyone, but only about 6 million so far have the will power & desire to
stop taking meds with their known side effects
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And as someone else pointed out what is the point of living a few extra years if you can't enjoy some of the finer things in life?
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How about the quality of life in a nursing home for the rest of your life, is that one of those finer things to look forward to?