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Originally Posted by blueash
This is a screed filled with Islamophobia. There are hordes of them, hordes. (By the way your friend might want to learn the difference between horde and hoard) They have taken over Birmingham (and her evidence for that is.... crickets) as if members of a religion can't choose to live near each other (see Utah and Mormons as a US example of a "take over".. how horrible) And these non-assimilating foreign religion praying exponentially fertile people (your friend forgot to say usually people of color) aren't WASPs. And those major streets in London that are regularly shut down every Friday are... ?? (google can't find any stories about this problem) Sounds like the same reasons good old Americans fought against Catholics and of course Jews with their foreign religion and refusal to assimilate and their strange customs Anti-Catholicism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know we no longer have the Russians or the Chinese to hate and fear. And hating Jews is temporarily out of fashion and hating blacks is kept in the privacy of the home. What is left to hate and fear except Islam, and of course atheists who actually are the lowest group in the willingness of Americans to accept as a President Atheists, Muslims See Most Bias as Presidential Candidates with their wanting to end America by taking In God we Trust off the coins. And what screed would be complete without at least one good Nazi reference. And you kept me waiting so long for it to finally happen.
I accept that the world can be scary. I know that there are issues with the successful working of a free and open society. I understand that fear of otherness is not only common but may be instinctive and protective. I ask that everyone however not resort to wild invective, misleading stories, and fear mongering.
As to the video. Perhaps you researched the backstory, or perhaps you didn't. It was a protest which lasted about one hour (but just happened to be the exact time the video team was walking the town for her homecoming) by about 80 people against a police action. Two Muslim women were (allegedly) strip searched by male police Muslims protest against police ''mistreatment'' | Local News in Luton, Dunstable and Bedfordshire
One protester, Anjem Choudary, said: “Two women were strip-searched – one in her house in front of her children, and the other at a police station.
“It is continuing the demonisation of Muslims and primarily women whose honour was violated.” According to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act, ‘a strip-search may take place only if it is considered necessary to remove an article which a detainee would not be allowed to keep, and the officer reasonably considers the detainee might have concealed such an article’.
I know nothing of the facts of the strip search in Luton, whether it happened, whether it was done by male or female officers, and whether the gender of the officer is regulated under British law. But I do understand that in Islam the female body is kept hidden and that a devout Muslim would be outraged if Muslim women were being improperly stripped. (I would hope that you would be outraged if any woman of any faith was being strip searched without sufficient cause.) That allegation is what led to a march to the police station in Luton which this "English girl returns home" came prepared to film and goaded the marchers who were already upset against the perceived (real or not) offense to Muslim women into being argumentative. I must say I especially enjoyed her outrage that the ?cleric told her that unless she is a Muslim she is going to hell. How dare a religious person tell anyone that only their faith's followers have any chance of going to heaven. Never heard that kind of statement from any of America's religious leaders or the church goers. Here is a summary of a PEW survey (don't you love the accidental pun, pew) on what a Muslim would be told by Americans about his chance of going to heaven
Can Atheists Go to Heaven?
MUSLIMS
* 20% of white evangelicals think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 46% of white mainline protestants think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 34% of protestants at historically Black churches, think Muslims can go to Heaven.
* 49% of white Catholics think Muslims can go to Heaven. |
I really don't get where you jump to "this is just a bunch of Isalmophobia" and then throw in the various "hate" comparisons, and then conclude, in effect, there is no big deal here.
It's pretty obvious for those who can see, as the young woman in the video attempted to document. If one flat out wants to deny it, not much that can be done. You're entitled to your opinion of course ... as long as you live in a Sharia-free country that is.