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Originally Posted by Bucco
I do not at all, EVER, recall one person ever saying it was not necessary. The comments in my original post are a reflection of two things....
First, it validates we no longer need this, but having said that you read those posts having a good sneer and those including Ms. Clift who believe it is still valid.
Second, Mr Buchanan's comments, in my opinion reflect the result of the outlived policy and the over politicizing of not only affirmative action, but many other programs.
You hear folks talk about those feeling entitled....a generation of being enabled sort of leaves you feeling that way.
I do not think I disagree with anything you said, and the comment for you to armor up shows the lack of understanding the point of the conversation.
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While I agree with you on certain points, namely that there have been unintended consequences of affirmative action (AA). Those consequences may be a sense of entitlement by those on the receiving end of "AA" or it may also be a sense of shame (do I deserve this job or did I just get it so the diversity numbers look ok to the EEOC). However, the point I was trying to make was to disagree with Pat Buchanan when he says that white people are the only ones it is legal to discriminate against. What I was trying to say, and perhaps said poorly, is that AA has been an effective (if imperfect) tool to try and correct hundreds of years of injustices. That is not the same as discriminating against the Caucasian race, though there is no doubt that individuals have suffered. Now, just because I feel that it has outlived its usefulness does not mean it has. Its just my opinion from how I view the world. I am sure that there are black people out there that still believe we are a racist society. That's just how they see it from the viewpoint of their life experiences. I have not seen anything one way or the other that validates that we still need AA or validates that we don't need it. I just have my opinion, just as you have yours. I think to validate it, we would have to agree on some measurement to gauge it's effectiveness. Perhaps the growth of a black middle class or median income or something else that I am not smart enough to think of.