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Originally Posted by donb9006
I'm not anti ANY government. We need order and rules. But not what we're getting now. It's literally Orwellian what's going on. Read 1984.
You CAN'T make anything or anyone PERFECTLY safe. You can't make everyone or everywhere perfectly safe. You can't stop EVERY idiot who wants to do harm. And to try is too much of an intrusion on everyone else.
The comparison is valid. The Nazis, the Russians, Chinese...the spying was done on their own people...we're doing the same now...government is spying on its own people. It's a slow insidious process...like the frog in water that slowly gets hotter until it dies...never thinking it needed to jump out. We're being manipulated...by professional manipulators.
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I read 1984, probably in 1964
Of course nothing is perfectly safe, thus we have laws to protect. We have law ENFORCEMENT because everyone will not follow the law.
I would be curious as to, in your opinion, is being intruded on exactly ? In what way are you being intruded upon ? If there was even an inkling that what you hint at....people simply listening to you or I or any innocent American citizen for no apparent reason...SOMETHING NEVER DONE OR CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN DONE, I will join you with a placard. The requirements are clearly spelled out and, to my knowledge, there has never been a claim to the contrary
As I recall my history, the spying in those other lands you mention was one citizen on another citizen fostered publicly by the government. And nothing else, and would ask you to give examples otherwise.