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Originally Posted by Bucco
I read 1984, probably in 1964 
Of course nothing is perfectly safe, thus we have laws to protect. We have law ENFORCEMENT because everyone will not follow the law.
I would be curious as to, in your opinion, is being intruded on exactly ? In what way are you being intruded upon ? If there was even an inkling that what you hint at....people simply listening to you or I or any innocent American citizen for no apparent reason...SOMETHING NEVER DONE OR CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN DONE, I will join you with a placard. The requirements are clearly spelled out and, to my knowledge, there has never been a claim to the contrary
As I recall my history, the spying in those other lands you mention was one citizen on another citizen fostered publicly by the government. And nothing else, and would ask you to give examples otherwise. |
It's time to reread it...you'll see the parallels.
Think about what you wrote...law enforcement...not crime prevention. The police come AFTER a crime has already occurred. Not much help to the victim unless it's a "white collar" crime. Violent crime...police, law enforcement...has no effect. See the crime statistics in any large urban center.
What is intruded upon? My freedom, my privacy. The average person commits three felonies a day because laws are so open ended and non specific. Police CAN arrest anyone for anything and they do. Watch youtube videos of police abuse. There are now more rules and regulations than ever before. You're stopped and searched randomly...at "drug checkpoints". I have NO electronic privacy, everything is recorded. Is there REALLY a difference between electronic communication and letters? There shouldn't be...they're both private correspondence. The difference is electronic can be "read" without the recipient knowing it. And they do. Not by people, machines parse everything.
I'm ex-military too and I know for a FACT that much of the "official history" that will be passed down for children to learn...is false, a lie, made up propaganda to make the citizens feel good. I know it because I was there. And what's in the history books...just ain't true. There are many people who could be a Snowden but know what would happen to them if they said something. They'd be hunted as he is.
We only "know" what they choose to say/tell us. Our government should be open, not opaque. Our government has more secrets from it's own people than it has against it's enemies! And why do we have enemies? Not the reason you're told. They're not jealous of our freedom...that's ridiculous. They hate us because we move in and take away THEIR freedom to live the way THEY want to live.
Why would you defend your government lying to you? And decry the man who told you they do?
You never heard the new phrase..."see something, say something"? That's encouraging citizens to "watch" each other for something "unusual".
"Terrorism" is just the latest in a long line of boogymen...not to be confused with our own bogyman...to be afraid of so they can take control.
Jane Fonda was right about Vietnam. Only now are people beginning to realize it.