I don't think we should be voting for our next President based on the actions of the current administration nor past administrations. We should be looking at the character, experience and platforms of the various candidates running in 2008. I think the original point of this discussion thread was to debate Hillary's candidacy versus the others that are running for the office. Every President makes on the job errors in judgement only to be revealed often only after the fact. Further, deep rooted character flaws are also revealed during office right along with any stellar character traits they may possess that were unknown prior to the office being held. Our duty is to identify these flaws and good qualities and evaluate the candidates agendas the best we can with the limited information that we have prior to election day. If we keep the debate there, instead of ridiculing, blaming and blindly taking party sides, we all may benefit. My take on this process is simple. A good President must possess both liberal and conservative qualities and these are not limited to one side of the aisle or the other. In the liberal camp, our President must keep an eye toward the future, be open to progressive social reform when necessary and invest in social programs that have true measurable benefit, interact and negotiate with international leaders with refined diplomacy toward the global good etc. In the conservative camp, our President must have the restraint to make social changes slowly and cautiously, and look back often to learn about what worked best and what didn't and why. President's in both camps must moderate our resources, economy, foriegn trade etc and enlist (as is done now) the brightest, most knowlegeable experts in the fields for consult and decision making. On matters of defense, we must fight and eliminate all threats to our freedom and way of life and assist those whom we call our allies toward the same end. If our best military generals advise our civilian leaders to take the fight to our enemies, so be it, and the President takes full brunt of the decision......but a decision must be made. And in todays world, inaction may be worse than taking action be it right or wrong. So, who do we choose to steer the course? Let's evaluate Hillary's qualities, good and bad, to see how she would measure-up. One criteria I would not use as a measure of potential performance.....I would not cast my vote on the basis of who a potential President was/is married to or on the basis of other kinds relationships. They should be evaluted on their own merit, skills, character, platform and most importantly experience and demonstrated judicious use of power.