[KathieI]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Kathy, pushing and pulling the valves works for a while, but sooner or later you are going to need a plumber! Yes, same thing has been happening to us for probably the past 12 months and about a month ago both toilets gave up and played dead. We had Kiley's Plumbing come in and replace the valves on both toilets with the "normal" valves. The ones installed by the builder are just cheap and useless and will only last for so many years before you need to have them replaced. I think, don't quote me, the job of fixing both toilets came to about $150. Also, we now have the correct shut off valves in place, and we do close them when we travel.

Thanks MA, I was just telling my friend the same thing. I think the builders valves (and other things) are chicken-s**t, so I'll get a plumber in here to put proper valves. In my previous houses, they were always screw valves, I had never heard of push/pull. This is the first time its happened to me in 5 years, so I can't complain.