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Originally Posted by Golfingnut
I think....... that we do affect the ozone layer. We humans. But I KNOW that getting enough people to act differently is well nigh impossible. The humans aren't going to give up cars fueled by gas and other comforts. Some of us would. Some of us won't.
We can't get people to do things short term to help themselves, like working two jobs and saving money and reusing and repurposing and taking care of what they have. It is the beautiful young and idealistic who will argue with the old and sage. There are things that are right, but not feasible. You cannot change certain elements in certain people. In this case a LOT of people.
It will again be a huge argument that will further polarize people instead of motivating them to do what they can do to improve the air and water. Too many people do NOT care about anything but their own instant gratification. They do not plan or try to save the country's money. They don't realize that is the same principle. Waste not, want not. Necessity is the mother of hard work and the work ethic.
I know these things only because I am old.
Fortunately the arguing is age tatted by only a few. I am sorry to the folks that could have had meaningfull discussion about what cause s global warming, but you can read. That I tried ti get it back on track three times only to be attacked again. See ya on the next START of a thread.
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Hi golfingnut: In all due respect you paint with a very wide brush indeed.
I am old too and managed people for many years and I can promise you unless you can make a cogent and factual case you will not get people to follow you. The climate change advocates have been continually caught in so many lies and half truths that they have lost credibility. secondly employees as I remember could always figure out when a manager (VP etc) was pushing a program because they personally gained and that fact dealt them the death blow.
You suggest that people won't give up their comforts as if it was their responsibility. Yet all those who are suppose to be taking the lead have a larger carbon print than many of the people combined that you direct this criticism. Think Al Gore and his residence
You reference the lack of people being willing to work two jobs, etc. I agree. Growing up in my American-Italian neighborhood it was an act of shame to take a handout. Our government has made handouts fashionable.
But the big flaw in your body of logic on this particular post is you suggest because someone says it so it is so. This is the madding logic going on within this country that name calling is the argument. So if someone says I find nothing unusual or suspect about the statistics being leveled by scientist concerning climate change the counter point is that this individual is a denier. Being called a denier in their eyes is sufficient to have made their point.
This approach is being utilized in every aspect of our lives and the reality is its hurting us and worse yet we won't know it until its too late.
So forgive me if I take the path of the man from Missouri..the show me state because I am tired of self interest not letting a crisis go to waste
Personal Best Regards