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Originally Posted by CFrance
Quote from Rubicon: "You reference the lack of people being willing to work two jobs, etc. I agree. Growing up in my American-Italian neighborhood it was an act of shame to take a handout. Our government has made handouts fashionable."
Rubicon... how is this not a political statement? I had a post removed in another thread for saying who the Koch brothers are, and I wasn't making a political statement. But your statement seems political to me. I thought we were not supposed to put political statements into this argument.
I'm having trouble knowing what's a political statement and what's not.
As for the climate change issue, I think you are painting with a broad brush as well. How do you know those taking the lead have a larger footprint than those people with the same amount of wealth who aren't taking the lead?
As far as a blanket statement that "The climate change advocates have been continually caught in so many lies and half truths that they have lost credibility," thatg too is too broad of a brush. Some have, most have not.
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I have no idea whom I will offend with this post, but surely somebody.
I said on this thread early on and with all the reading I have done since, my thoughts have not changed......I do not believe you can discuss this subject without getting into po...ics ! It has been made that way and thus it is. And since it is pol..ics, stretching the truth is just part of it. With some of the links supplied on here, I have found all the studies filled with "perhaps", "could", etc. so even the best studies have trouble making definitive statements.
If you take something like that.....give it to politicians and you will have pol...itical discussion no matter now hard you try to avoid.
The issue is/has been used as needed by those pol...ticians , and you can check me on that. I do not want to go any further as then we have discussion on an issue that is Pol...cal !!!!
Some have suggested and implied about the younger generation being so much better than the older generation.....THAT kind of thing is certainly painting with the broadest brush possible. Speaking for my generation, all the criticizing in the world will not make me feel guilty, as NONE of this was ever discussed.
I still think it is important but we will destroy OURSELVES well before any climate change gets us if we do not address the moral breakdown !