[villagetinker]

OK here is my take. I was personally involved in a near miss at Buena Vista and 466a. I was heading west, with headlights on in a bright red car (can you say I look like a fire truck!! grin) and the person going east decides they can make the left turn. I had to jam on the brakes so hard the ABS kicked in, hit the horn, and just missed them. The person next to me in the driving lane also just missed them.

So here is my take, keep the current green left turn arrow at the beginning of the traffic cycle, and then go to a RED left turn arrow once the opposing traffic has a green light. I know this will be VERY annoying to people in light traffic conditions, but during heavy traffic, these intersections with LIMITED view of the opposing traffic lanes need to stop left turns, before we kill someone.