Originally Posted by janmcn
Weren't the eight police officers gunned down in the past two months 'good guys with guns'? Why would the two policemen having lunch at Cici's pizza in Las Vegas last week-end, or the three police officers in New Brunswick Canada, or the two state troopers killed in the hinterlands of Alaska not able to protect themselves, but a school teacher with a classroom full of students would be able to shoot to kill and protect those kids?
Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa
Good men with guns sometimes get killed by bad men with guns. That is a sad fact of life. However, it is also a fact that the killers are ultimately brought to justice by other good men with guns.
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Originally Posted by KayakerNC
Actually, these killers were brought to justice by bad guys with guns, murder/suicide. 
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I can't even rebut your generalized statement about "these killers" until you give specific references that can be researched on the Internet, but I dispute your assertion.
Are you claiming that all of the police officer killings alluded to above were simple cases of the killers walking up and shooting the officers and then turning their guns on themselves? I certainly doubt that.
Killers who commit suicide generally do so when confronted by police or other armed personnel prepared to arrest or shoot them. In that context they are still brought to justice (using the term I used in my original statement) by the "intervention" of armed good men.
I stand by my statement THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO STOP A BAD MAN WITH A GUN IS INTERVENTION BY A GOOD MAN WITH A GUN.