[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by buggyone

It will not be solved on TOTV but certainly it is a good topic for discussion as an open forum is supposed to do.

I wonder how long it will be before some our gun enthusiasts will come on and say that schools should not be gun free zones since that encourages someone to come start shooting since it will be a safe area for them to do their shooting with no danger. Yeah, stop guns by bringing in more guns. That is going to end well.

Are the shootings the result of bad parenting, coddled children, violent video games, gratuitous violence in movies, removal of God from schools, or just plain crazy people?

Before jumping to a quick answer remember that one answer may not fit all circumstances.

Your third paragraph says it all.......

I, myself, tend to think it is the result of the total violence in t.v. shows, movies, etc.............we ourselves, as formed adults who were raised in the "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best" era when saluting the flag and morning prayer was still allowed in the schools......where in church kids were taught "Thou Shalt Not Kill" as part of the Ten Commandments........and somehow, just somehow, in our innocence....we seemed to just know "right from wrong" without all the counseling and such that they all have to receive today. We just knew.

Every time we watch "The Following" about the cult kids and their outrageous violence, at the behest of "Joe"........even though Kevin Bacon has always been a favorite actor of mine........I think the networks can do better. Many of these children who are shooting it up at their high schools have their own t.v.'s in their rooms.........they have been saturated in violent shows and movies at the cinemas since they were old enough to go with their friends..........

A blast from the past, but I was just reminding my husband yesterday that when we were "kids" our father's controlled the t.v. viewing (one t.v. in the home, in the living room; Dad chose the channels.....no remotes in those days).

Bonanza * the evening news * Victory at Sea * Ed Sullivan Show * etc.
We did get to watch Superman on Saturdays and a few other like that.........but I don't remember the level of violence that is on t.v. nowadays......the gory violence, torture, murder........etc.


Guns can be taught respectfully and kept under lock and key by responsible parents. Especially in the "hunting states".

With all of the kids put on psychotropic drugs nowadays for every little bit of anxiety.......or A.D.H.D., especially in the lower grades, perhaps they are not thinking rationally? Pharmaceutical drugs can change one's thought process and even actions.......just look at the Ambien Defense.....for driving while asleep.

We've become a nation of drugged out people.....and students.
Not all, but some..........

Anyway, you are correct.......it is a good topic for discussion.

What is so sad, is that it's the good kids who are being killed by one crazy nut .......in each of these school incidents.

How can we protect the innocents? Many of our schools do NOT have metal detectors........such as the most recent case; where they do not check for guns.

P.S. I KNOW THIS WILL NOT BE A POPULAR COMMENT, BUT IT IS A TRUTHFUL OBSERVATION ON MY PART.
I, for one, was fortunate to be able to stay at home and raise both of our children from the first pregnancy until they went off to college...........so they had daily guidance with love from both parents as my husband also "worked at home" Our home was the place all of their friends liked to come and we were happy to accommodate them.......

So many kids , through no fault of their own, nor of their parents who have to work, were left in daycare where they do tend to pick up bad habits...........

Raising of the children, including sex education, has been left to the schools..........
As another poster mentioned.........many families are now unstable, not all together, certainly not traditional.

Traditional worked for us........and thankfully, to watch ours raise their own........with kindness, caring, love and compassion plus the thirst for knowledge, reading, learning, etc..........is heart warming. I'll never regret the years I spent raising my children to be good people ; good citizens; and most of all have the love within to be loving to their own brood...........the next generation. I never had to raise my voice.........if parents would teach by example from the earliest years.........children become what they see in the HOME. If they live with violence, anger, hurtfulness, etc. then that's what they sometimes become..............unless they are astute enough to want to be different than their parents.