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Old 06-16-2014, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr View Post
This does nothing to refute the statistics that I posted. Yes, each and every gunshot incident is horrible, but there are just not as many as anti gun activists would like us to believe. In fact in this story, it is noted that this emergency center treats 4,750 trauma cases each year. It wants us to think that they are all gunshot cases. They are not. This plays on our emotions rather than logic by showing the victims of gunshots and the people who have the horrible job of caring for them.

Intellectually or logically, you would identify and quantify the problem and then seek reasonable solutions.

If they showed enough video of people who had been seriously injured in automobile accidents, we'd be talking about banning cars and having psychological screening before allowing people to get a drivers license. Maybe raising the legal age for driving. Make cars more difficult to get. But that would be appealing to out emotions as opposed to logic.

Like I said, deaths from gun shot wounds is at an all time low or very close to an all time low.
I'm going to side with you on this one. From a statistical point of view the problem is being over blown. If you just look at unnecessary deaths then auto accidents I'm sure lead the pack. They are just as horrific as any shooting. Because a small group of people see guns as unnecessary they want them either severely curtailed or eliminated. Guns are no more then a tool plain and simple. Some people are just prone to violence whether through mental illness, anger, or gang related. Its just a fact of life. Remove one tool and they will use another. There are so many guns in society you will waste a lot of time and effort and accomplish nothing to solve a social violence problem.

When people zero in on a singular item and ignore the real problem I'm very suspicious of their motive. If the argument comes from Washington its pure political in nature. If it comes form the public it makes me wonder if it originates out of lack of understanding or a blind allegiance to a line of thinking. If you have to try and change my mind by showing me a bunch of gory pictures tells me your argument is pretty weak. I could show you some pretty shocking pictures of homicides committed with a baseball bat if I wanted to regulate baseball bats. The bottom line people kill people, have since the beginning of time.

People also have a tendency when driven by a cause to be over zealous to push their point. This is what I see now from the anti-gun folks and the pro-gun folks. All weapons can be dangerous when human negligence is involved. Just like any other tool. I personally support more education for those that own firearms. The NRA has many programs that do just that, promote gun safety. So the only way to see if a real problem exists is to do the math. The math does not show a big problem nationwide. This fact is conveniently either left out of the conversation or the numbers are artificially adjusted to prove a point. I also put little faith in a Politian that promotes gun regulation while having 24 hour armed security around them. Their argument is pretty hypocritical . Even some of the strongest anti-gun Politian's own their own firearms or conceal carry. So every word they spout is nothing but political theater. I'd list the names but it would take too long.

One of the last things I will say is good luck on regulations to remove guns from society, you never will accomplish this task. Current technology or in the very near future you will be able to use a 3D printer to print a weapon at will in your living room. Technology is increasingly advancing far faster then any laws.